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	<title>Comments on: 32bit VS 64bit &#8211; what do you use?</title>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-231368</link>
		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to download Flash so that i can watch videos on YouTube...but the website keeps telling me that i need a 32 bit to run it. My laptop is a 64 bit, so I am really frustrated because i cant get it to work. &lt;br&gt;HELP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to download Flash so that i can watch videos on YouTube&#8230;but the website keeps telling me that i need a 32 bit to run it. My laptop is a 64 bit, so I am really frustrated because i cant get it to work. <br />HELP!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-231229</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup me too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup me too <img src='http://kovyrin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vartan</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-231197</link>
		<dc:creator>Vartan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am using 32-bit Windows Vista Home Premium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am using 32-bit Windows Vista Home Premium.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using 32 bit Windows Vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using 32 bit Windows Vista.</p>
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		<title>By: majek</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-230698</link>
		<dc:creator>majek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had the same problem [1]. Finally we chose 32 bits, because we could fit much more worker processes on a single host. 

In our case we had python processes. On 64 bits one process used about 95MB RAM, on 32 bits about 60MB (there are a lot of pointers inside python).

So, by downgrading to 32 bits we could fit 30% more requests on one machine. And our next bottleneck became CPU rather than RAM.

We also wondered if 32 bits (with 8GB RAM) are slower than 64 bits. But some home made benchmarks showed that the performance degradation isn’t a problem (the results showed that 32 bits are 3-5% slower).

We tested also some combinations like 64 bits kernel and 32 bit userspace, but finally chose 32kernel/32userspace.

And what you finally chose and why?

[1] http://popcnt.org/2008/01/32-or-64-bits.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had the same problem [1]. Finally we chose 32 bits, because we could fit much more worker processes on a single host. </p>
<p>In our case we had python processes. On 64 bits one process used about 95MB RAM, on 32 bits about 60MB (there are a lot of pointers inside python).</p>
<p>So, by downgrading to 32 bits we could fit 30% more requests on one machine. And our next bottleneck became CPU rather than RAM.</p>
<p>We also wondered if 32 bits (with 8GB RAM) are slower than 64 bits. But some home made benchmarks showed that the performance degradation isn’t a problem (the results showed that 32 bits are 3-5% slower).</p>
<p>We tested also some combinations like 64 bits kernel and 32 bit userspace, but finally chose 32kernel/32userspace.</p>
<p>And what you finally chose and why?</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://popcnt.org/2008/01/32-or-64-bits.html" rel="nofollow">http://popcnt.org/2008/01/32-or-64-bits.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-230667</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, 

Any updates on the 32-bit versus 64-bit. Do you see any memory / performance degradation with the 64 bit? I have 8GB RAM and I am deciding if I should go with 64 bit or downgrade to 4GB RAM and get a 32 bit OS.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, </p>
<p>Any updates on the 32-bit versus 64-bit. Do you see any memory / performance degradation with the 64 bit? I have 8GB RAM and I am deciding if I should go with 64 bit or downgrade to 4GB RAM and get a 32 bit OS.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Vasya Pupkin</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-230437</link>
		<dc:creator>Vasya Pupkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Я ипосльзую amd64 ядро, но 32bit userspace.
В частности linux-image-2.6-amd64 но сама система 32bit, и никаких проблем с PAE. Понятно, что каждый отдельный процесс не сможет съесть в такой схеме более 2GB памяти.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Я ипосльзую amd64 ядро, но 32bit userspace.<br />
В частности linux-image-2.6-amd64 но сама система 32bit, и никаких проблем с PAE. Понятно, что каждый отдельный процесс не сможет съесть в такой схеме более 2GB памяти.</p>
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		<title>By: Scoundrel</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-230380</link>
		<dc:creator>Scoundrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2cencio: Actually to start testing this platform I wanted to make sure at least a few large rails users would report that it works :-) Now I have enough information (EngineYard and few other large rails users have 64bit stuff and it obviously works well) and we&#039;re going to deploy our next app server on 64bit Ubuntu.

Anyways, thanks to all who answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2cencio: Actually to start testing this platform I wanted to make sure at least a few large rails users would report that it works <img src='http://kovyrin.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Now I have enough information (EngineYard and few other large rails users have 64bit stuff and it obviously works well) and we&#8217;re going to deploy our next app server on 64bit Ubuntu.</p>
<p>Anyways, thanks to all who answered.</p>
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		<title>By: cencio</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-230379</link>
		<dc:creator>cencio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you wanna make final decision after analyzing posts in Internet? not sure that it is good idea. Just try prototype x64 with 1-4 servers, test stability/performance and will have an answer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you wanna make final decision after analyzing posts in Internet? not sure that it is good idea. Just try prototype x64 with 1-4 servers, test stability/performance and will have an answer</p>
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		<title>By: Scoundrel</title>
		<link>http://kovyrin.net/2008/04/24/32bit-vs-64bit-what-do-use/comment-page-1/#comment-230372</link>
		<dc:creator>Scoundrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2cencio: Actually there were many rumors regarding stability of ruby and mongrel on x86_64 boxes, but all stuff I&#039;ve tried worked well so now I&#039;m looking for more real-life examples from other people to make a final decision of switching our multi-million pageviews/day application entirely to 64-bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2cencio: Actually there were many rumors regarding stability of ruby and mongrel on x86_64 boxes, but all stuff I&#8217;ve tried worked well so now I&#8217;m looking for more real-life examples from other people to make a final decision of switching our multi-million pageviews/day application entirely to 64-bit.</p>
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